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Project Top 100

posted Saturday, 24 November 2007

It was the best of times (10/1 -- yay ballots!); it was the worst of times (10/31 – more ballots?!). Yes, October 2007 will go down as one busy month for the three pollsters.

If you don’t know, we three have been running minipolls for over a year now, but no minipoll could compare to the Top 100 Romances Poll.

In September, LinnieGayl helpfully prepared an Excel document with about 400 titles based on past Top 100 lists. At the end of the voting period, the number of titles on Lee’s spreadsheet had increased to over 2600 titles that received at least one vote, and by the time we combined all three spreadsheets, to nearly 5000 titles!

We decided that we would divide the alphabet and tally ballots by email address. That worked well for A-I and J-R votes, but S-W wasn’t as popular a grouping as the other letters (who knew?). So by mid-month, we switched letter groups. Again, S-W proved to be the least popular grouping so we would all help each other tally the others’ ballots. We would email each other several times a day to check and see if anyone else needed help.

We all had our own system for recording votes. Lee would copy her ballots to Word, renumber them 100-1 (the #1 book received 100 points), and then record her votes. As the month went on, she refined her system even more, grouping authors’ books together so she could simply proceed down her chart and plug in the specific number. This worked well for authors/titles already on the chart, but there were SO many additional books and titles that were constantly being added. At times, Lee would have to check an author’s website to verify specific titles (let's see – Christine Feehan had 14 “Dark” titles which received votes, Jane Feather had 7 “V” books and Mary Balogh had 5 “Slightly” titles).

Cindy forgot LinnieGayl had created a spreadsheet and started from scratch with the first ballot - just copying and pasting the list into Word, making sure the titles were the first listed and then pasted them into Excel. Every 10 ballots or so she would then arrange everything alphabetically and go through and move the scores to one line and delete multiple rows. It was 5 days before the polls closed that she clued in to the original spreadsheet. Uh-oh.

LinnieGayl needed the authors in a separate column (she was going to use a statistical program that would merge all identical data – remember “identical” because that becomes very important later) and Cindy had the titles and authors all in one column. Even though Cindy had known authors would need their own columns, she figured she really only needed to list the first 150 authors’ names in a different column. Oops. For two days she typed 2634 authors’ names into separate columns - and it hurt.

All three pollsters read a lot of romance books, but even they were surprised at some of the authors and titles that received votes – sometimes because they never heard of them and other times because “I didn't know [insert title] was a romance.”

Lee was a little bit surprised to see votes for:

V.C. Andrews' “My Sweet Audrina” and “Petals in the Wind”
Gillian Bradshaw “Render Unto Caesar”
Robert A. Heinlein's “Double Star”
Andre Norton's “Griffin in Glory,” “Songsmith,” “The Crystal Griffin” and “The Jargon Pard”

Head scratchers for Cindy and LinnieGayl were Margaret Mitchell’s “Gone With the Wind” and Colleen McCullough’s “The Thorn Birds” - Cindy was forced to ask after the 4th ballot came in with this title if the book ended differently than the movie. Apparently not.

But no matter if they were romance books or not, they made the spreadsheet.

We managed to keep up with data entry through MOST of the month. That is, until the last few days of voting, when everyone who had been holding onto their ballots came out in full force. We were so flooded with ballots in those last few days, that it took us another three days or so to do the remaining data entry. Then, the fun truly began, matching three separate spreadsheets.

Fortunately, LinnieGayl uses a statistical software package on a routine basis that is designed to handle just such matches . . . that is, if everything (last name author, first name author, exact title) is the same. Needless to say, with three different people doing data entry, and many, many different voters listing the same titles, there are many different ways to enter the same title. So, what for one voter was, “The Devil in Winter” was for another voter “Devil in Winter” while for yet another it was “A Devil in Winter.” Not wanting any vote to be lost, LinnieGayl spent two days doing the match, to make certain that everything worked out.

Preparing the Write Up & Analysis

We all would like to thank Rachel of AAR for inspiring us to post the covers of the books that made the Top 100. We were like wiggly puppies all excited about the “look” and had no clue just how much work that was going to be. Three days into creating the chart someone made a suggestion that maybe it wasn’t necessary to do so. But, oh, it was necessary! No way we were going to be defeated by a little *cough* HTML.

Lee and LinnieGayl can do observations right off the top of their head. Lee is always coming up with things before the polls close while LinnieGayl can look at numbers and see the pattern immediately. Cindy, meanwhile, needs to look at the charts and write up stuff long hand before figuring out what any of it means.

When doing mini-poll analyses, in the interest of letting us all get a word in we usually e-mail a Word document back and forth that we constantly add to and revise. This time around, because of the enormity of the poll and all the charts that went into the analysis, we created a free blog that the three of us could access at any time and where we could look at the HTML code and tweak things to make sure all was perfect. Weird glitches happen with HTML and when Cindy and Lee couldn't get something to work, LinnieGayl could and likewise in all directions.

Finally, we were ready to send our finished product to Laurie to edit, critique and comment as she liked. Laurie always makes excellent suggestions and once we all made changes that we were all pleased with, we were good to go.

Thanks to all the readers who participated! Here are some of the comments we received with the ballots:

(1) I quit at 75. See my blog post for more info. Man this was FREAKIN hard!

(2) This was SOOO hard! I'm still not sure I've ranked them correctly, but I've done my best. I decided to leave out books by Jacqueline Carey, Sharon Shinn, Anne Bishop and Rachel Caine, because, while they contain powerful love stories and would rank at the top of my favorite books list, I have not shelved them at home under 'romance'. Therefore, subconsciously or not, I obviously don't consider them romance, so I don't think I should include them. So, here goes...

(3) I just typed in my mom's ballot longhand, and it took quite a while. Thanks for your work on this project!!!!
(4) Thanks for doing this! I know its a lot of work....but I've gotten great recommendations over the years!
(5) I had my list waiting for years. I know that I am somewhat at a disadvantage, because I read only historicals and sometimes paranormal, so my list will not have any contemporary in it. So, there are a number in my list that are so old, hardly anyone has ever heard of them, but they are the ones that hold a special place in my heart. They probably won't make you list, but they will remain on mine: Tally by Claudette Williams, a traditional regency, that really opened my eyes to sex in regencies. Norma Lee Clark, Dorothy Mack, Elizabeth Chater, Joan Overfield, Anne Stuarts…love all the old traditionals.
(6): Notes: I decided to include only titles originally published during my lifetime (thereby leaving out "Pride & Prejudice," "Jane Eyre," "Anne of Avonlea," "Girl of the Limberlost," "The Witch of Blackbird Pond," "Mara, Daughter of the Nile" and "Dear Enemy." They just didn't look right mixed in with what stereotypical "romance" - i.e., mass market paperbacks printed in the last 20 years or so, most of which go way beyond "kisses," and are shelved under the Romance" sign in book stores like Borders and Barnes & Noble. After some internal debate, however, I *did* decide to include some books printed in the 70s and early 80s - books which probably won't show up on any other list but mine :) because they're the books which I think set the foundations of my current romance reading habits. Oh well - it'll keep things interesting, right? I hope... Also, I tried to include multiple titles from the same author *only if* I considered the additional titles to show a new facet of the author's talent/skill. A good example of this would be Laura Kinsale. "Flower from the Storm" strikes me as very different from "Uncertain Magic" which is very different from "Shadowheart."
(7) Well, here goes. It wasn't hard picking the titles but ranking them was impossible!
(8) Argh! Only 41! Well, I did my best. Here you go.

Cindy, Lee, and LinnieGayl

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1. Sandra Schwab left...
Saturday, 24 November 2007 2:29 am

Oh man, now I feel really bad: not only did I send in my ballot on the very last day, but I guess I also included a host of books and authors that never showed up on anybody else's list. Hmm.

Anyways, thank you all so much for all your hard work! It was great fun to put my ballot together, look at other people's lists and read the final Tops.


2. AAR Rachel left...
Saturday, 24 November 2007 9:08 am :: http://grerp.blog-city.com

I love the way the added covers make the final results look. But I KNOW it was a lot of work, since I did that cover stuff myself. Halfway through the process of adding them, B-C for some unknown reason resized half of them into really tiny thumbnails. Argh! Thwarted! I'm sure you ran into similar challenges.

Wow, this project sounds like boatloads of work. Thanks for everything. You did a fantastic job.


3. Dev left...
Saturday, 24 November 2007 9:43 am :: http://imaromancereader.blogspot.com

Wow ~ that is a lot of work you ladies did! I enjoyed seeing the results as well as seeing everyone's individual lists on their blogs.


4. Sandy Coleman left...
Saturday, 24 November 2007 10:35 am

Sounds like a dizzying amount of work! I didn't get a chance to participate in the ATBF discussion (it just got too big and then I didn't have time to read it all), but just wanted to offer my two cents that I think it's cool that a classic romance (Lord of Scoundrels) is still a classic to new generations of readers. It was my personal number three, but I find the win for LOS to be a very, very satisfying one.


5. Kay Webb Harrison left...
Saturday, 24 November 2007 1:55 pm

I suppose that I was the only one who listed the Andre Norton books. I swear that they ARE romances, set in a fantasy world. They all feature the growth of the hero and heroine and their relationship, and they all end with a HEA. Kay


6. LeeB. left...
Saturday, 24 November 2007 5:53 pm

Kay: I wasn't sure that Andre Norton's books were romances, which is why I mentioned it. That's why it was fun to tally the ballots -- an opportunity to see titles of books that I didn't realize were romances. (Of course, many of those books didn't make it to the Top 100. Oh well.)


7. LinnieGayl left...
Saturday, 24 November 2007 7:28 pm

Sandra: The funny thing is, both Lee & my ballots had 100 titles, and of those 100 titles, a good many on each list only appeared on OUR ballots.

Rachel: We love the way the covers look as well, but had absolutely no idea how much work it was going to be...sigh!


8. LinnieGayl left...
Saturday, 24 November 2007 7:33 pm

Sandy, I was pleased with LOS win as well, although it was only #8 on my ballot. From the first week in the voting, it seemed pretty clear that either LOS or Dreaming of You (my #92) was going to be #1. In fact, it was very close between LOS and DOY at the time we posted the interim results. However, in the last two weeks, LOS pulled way ahead, making it no real contest.


9. Kay Webb Harrison left...
Saturday, 24 November 2007 8:25 pm

LeeB: Most of Andre Norton's books are coming of age stories featuring adolescents, set in the future or the past. Many of her Witch World stories are fantasy/adventures. The ones I listed are set in the Witch World. She has also written gothic romances and at least one romantic suspense book.


10. LinnieGayl left...
Monday, 3 December 2007 6:40 am

Kay, those witch world stories sound interesting. I'm going to check and see if my library has any of them.


11. Renee left...
Monday, 17 December 2007 8:41 pm :: http://paintedladyinthesky.blogspot.com/

Perhaps it would be a little easier if you post an excel form for people to fill out next time? I didn't see the original post (found the list through a Smart Bitches post comment) but would that maybe help you all on the next compilation?